Industrial Revolution And Its Consequences

[Phortuenti]

The title is slightly bait, but there is no doubt in my mind that we are starting to see otherwise normal human beings act out in an extremely bizarre ways as a result of a culture that incentives sociopathy, individualism, and fierce competition among your neighbors as a result of partisan politics, single-issues, feudal relationships with insane HOAs, etc.

Anyway, I'm collecting a trove of these bizarre behaviors and giving my two cents. Honestly, I'd post more on twitter, but I'm suppressed so bad I need an outlet and there's varying degrees of people who
"get it" here, so please, I would love contributions to the thread as you pick up on what I hope my first two entries kind of illustrate.

To start, a couple videos I saw pop up recently, but I've seen some others in the past. There's this grift going on of rich people paying 10s of thousands of dollars to either get their asses kicked by some dude who claims to me ex-SEAL, or it's some weirdo cry session. Like maybe this shit has been going on forever (I'm thinking of that old Arrested Development episode as I write this with the sweat lodges), and social media has drawn more light to it; but in any event, what I think it illustrates is that you have these sigma types completely adopting hustle culture, made millions, and are, shocker, still completely unfulfilled with life because money is fake, and trading digital pieces of paper is fake, and their wife's tits are fake.



This second video is I think kind of the same thing, but with extra karen/liberal vibe to it. Yea, it's a bit out of context but c'mon. The vibe here for me is that it's yuppy stay-at-homes who say they're unhappy and instead of getting carted off to Canyon Ranch or Four Seasons for a week, they spend the time raging. I'm being a little cynical here, but I think the bigger issue here is families are getting torn apart from being overworked and so you have this issue where moms had this vision of their families doing things together and building something, and their rich husbands are just completely in work-mode and never around. Secondly, you can thank the elites for encouraging women into the workplace. They did it to have a cheaper labor pool, and the consequences have had the added effect of otherwise normal stay-at-homes feeling pressure to find a way to commoditize some element of their lives.



-Phortuenti

[Phortuenti]

The weird Stanley cup craze.
Obviously entirely manufactured from the holiday season, but this kind of obsessive accesorizing I think speaks to people who genuinely don't know how to spend their time, so they just go on Amazon and buy a bunch of related items and next thing you know this stupid cup they've invested a couple hundred into has become fetishize. It's not even about the cup. It's about what the cup symbolizes. You've hit another sheep milestone. Bet life feels that much more complete.

[UAE Bird Expert]

He's right

[Phortuenti]

Seen a lot of these and as an occasional doordash driver, I'm 100% on his side. There's many facets to this, but mainly, it's this stupid debate about tipping that should not exist. Everyone knows how the game is played here. It's psycho to think you stand on principle and not tip, or tip poorly on a service where tips are known to be a significant to majority of a driver's pay. Like where are we in society where we gotta prove a point at the expense of someone else's livelihood?

[nomadwarp]

The weird Stanley cup craze.
Obviously entirely manufactured from the holiday season, but this kind of obsessive accesorizing I think speaks to people who genuinely don't know how to spend their time, so they just go on Amazon and buy a bunch of related items and next thing you know this stupid cup they've invested a couple hundred into has become fetishize. It's not even about the cup. It's about what the cup symbolizes. You've hit another sheep milestone. Bet life feels that much more complete.

And those cups are too bulky to be sensible. I think they were really built for truckers but turned into a weird Mormon girl originated goofy trend.

[Phortuenti]

OnlyFans and porn-obsessed culture has completely obliterated any chance of younger generations to have healthy relationships with sex. Never saw myself as anywhere near a prude, but it's apparently a controversial take among this hedonistic culture to come to the conclusion that porn is bad and needs to go.

[BrazenSolar]

OnlyFans and porn-obsessed culture has completely obliterated any chance of younger generations to have healthy relationships with sex. Never saw myself as anywhere near a prude, but it's apparently a controversial take among this hedonistic culture to come to the conclusion that porn is bad and needs to go.

(At a guess that video is staged but the point still stands)
I'm 24, can confirm, my relationship with sex is pretty cooked. Not sure if it's because of gay culture specifically being even more sexual than straight (e.g fuck on the first date, trade nudes to greet like dogs sniffing each others' butts).

I don't agree that porn is inherently bad, but much like gambling and alcohol, it's one of those things you absolutely can't prohibit but also should absolutely try to control and remediate. Education is the way. Better sex ed would in theory fix a lot of the problems with porn.

I also think intelligently communicating with other people (including voicing your feelings, being considerate when other people do) is obviously essential to any healthy relationship, sexual or not, and that is also lacking due to our whole erosion of community thing. You do not have to regulate your relationships with people online in the same way you would have to in person. Especially with the strange types of people you can end up hanging out with online. I'm becoming increasingly boomer-pilled regarding in person social interaction (e.g it is the best possible social interaction)

[Phortuenti]

OnlyFans and porn-obsessed culture has completely obliterated any chance of younger generations to have healthy relationships with sex. Never saw myself as anywhere near a prude, but it's apparently a controversial take among this hedonistic culture to come to the conclusion that porn is bad and needs to go.

(At a guess that video is staged but the point still stands)
I'm 24, can confirm, my relationship with sex is pretty cooked. Not sure if it's because of gay culture specifically being even more sexual than straight (e.g fuck on the first date, trade nudes to greet like dogs sniffing each others' butts).

I don't agree that porn is inherently bad, but much like gambling and alcohol, it's one of those things you absolutely can't prohibit but also should absolutely try to control and remediate. Education is the way. Better sex ed would in theory fix a lot of the problems with porn.

I also think intelligently communicating with other people (including voicing your feelings, being considerate when other people do) is obviously essential to any healthy relationship, sexual or not, and that is also lacking due to our whole erosion of community thing. You do not have to regulate your relationships with people online in the same way you would have to in person. Especially with the strange types of people you can end up hanging out with online. I'm becoming increasingly boomer-pilled regarding in person social interaction (e.g it is the best possible social interaction)

Reasonable analysis, though at 38 years old, I really have come to the conclusion that there's no such thing as a healthy use of pornography that doesn't end up with fostering a degenerate culture. Your point about the breakdown of interpersonal relationships by everyone being able to hide behind a glowscreen most of the day has without a doubt contributed to a more anti-social culture in and of itself and is another significant and separate issue from how we perceive sex and intimacy.

[Phortuenti]

To kind of tie-in how this culture is actually kind of being psyopped onto us, suggest checking out this thread on HBOs show Euphoria. Makes a lot more sense after seeing how a the pieces fit post-Oct 7.

[Phortuenti]

I think this zoomer does a quite good job breaking down the disconnect between boomers and the younger generations. Older generations think we're lazy and point to the S&P 500 to say, "yea but the economy is great it's just you," and can't comprehend they were living in EZ-mode.